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		<title>By: Poll Dorcha</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2009/03/irish-government-ministers/comment-page-1/#comment-115436</link>
		<dc:creator>Poll Dorcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just doing a job and getting a bit tired of being painted with the same brush as the FAS management, the scavenging politicos, RTEs so called celebs and senior civil servants who definitely had their noses in the trough. It&#039;s abit like blaming every private sector worker for the excesses of the banks&#039; greedy higher execs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just doing a job and getting a bit tired of being painted with the same brush as the FAS management, the scavenging politicos, RTEs so called celebs and senior civil servants who definitely had their noses in the trough. It&#039;s abit like blaming every private sector worker for the excesses of the banks&#039; greedy higher execs!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick McGivney</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2009/03/irish-government-ministers/comment-page-1/#comment-115435</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick McGivney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but &lt;i&gt;apart&lt;/i&gt; from all that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but <i>apart</i> from all that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Poll Dorcha</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2009/03/irish-government-ministers/comment-page-1/#comment-115433</link>
		<dc:creator>Poll Dorcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 19:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A union memeber here and a public servant! Needless to state, I have never put a gun to anyone&#039;s head in reality or metaphorically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A union memeber here and a public servant! Needless to state, I have never put a gun to anyone&#039;s head in reality or metaphorically.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Browne</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2009/03/irish-government-ministers/comment-page-1/#comment-115365</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandfather was a ganger on the roads, my father a bus driver/conductor for 35 years bringing people in and out to Shannon. I work for myself in the non protected private sector. They all need to be paid and are highly valued members of our community but their salaries and conditions should not be dependent on unions who spend their waking hours plotting to put a gun to the heads of politicians to reef as much money from the system  for their members and to hell with anyone else.  Neither should their salaries depend on endless union protection rackets.  When Bertie was awarded another 37,000 nine of ten unions contacted refused to condemn the rise because Bertie was a good friend and pushover as far they were concerned.  When the passport office went on strike the two machines that could print passports one in Dublin the other in Cork were soon put out of commission. Was that bad luck?  I attended a public meeting addressed by the head of the CSPU to be told that they asked Bertie in 2002 for 600 million as part of their Celtic Tiger dividend only for Bertie to give them 1.2bn. This was theft of public money by Ahern to throw at unions and their members to keep them sweet. 

The fact of the matter is that 40% of their salaries have to be borrowed every month and that 40% has then to be serviced a rate of 5.83% for seven and a half years... same with the next 40% of their cheques etc.  We have a choice, we have inflated salaries to levels which are far too high we can pretend that everything will be all right and continue on to pay these salaries from borrowed money until the entire system collapses or we can adjust the salaries of judges, politicians, bankers, barristers, accountants, RTE presenters all the way down the line.  Peoples homes should be protected and nobody should have to pay more than a set percentage of what they earn to pay for the roof over their heads.  We already have FG and the unions gloating about getting into power. What a nice prospect it is to have Jack O&#039;Conor and David Begg stalking the corridors of power once again. I watched O&#039;Connor waltz into the Dail about two months back he adeptly side stepped a couple of hapless taxi drivers who were protesting outside the Dail he did not even cast them a sideways glance.  The judiciary, the politicians the unions are in it up to their necks and if it takes a revolution to get rid of them, so be it, better to burn out than to fade away what do think Bock?  Must we continue to pay politicians who have bankrupted the state is that not creating moral hazard?  It has to be management by objectives and payment for results not payment for failure and pensions and golden handshakes all round for abysmal failure. Everyone in Limerick should recognise O&#039;Dea for what he is, an apologist and propagandist for FF an opportunist parish pump politician, since he went into politics representing Limerick the city has gone from bad to worse. (yes, I know there are some good things happening and thank god for that)  In my opinion O&#039;Dea cares more about his moustache than he does for the people of Moyross or Southill.  People in Limerick should vote for the independents who run in the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandfather was a ganger on the roads, my father a bus driver/conductor for 35 years bringing people in and out to Shannon. I work for myself in the non protected private sector. They all need to be paid and are highly valued members of our community but their salaries and conditions should not be dependent on unions who spend their waking hours plotting to put a gun to the heads of politicians to reef as much money from the system  for their members and to hell with anyone else.  Neither should their salaries depend on endless union protection rackets.  When Bertie was awarded another 37,000 nine of ten unions contacted refused to condemn the rise because Bertie was a good friend and pushover as far they were concerned.  When the passport office went on strike the two machines that could print passports one in Dublin the other in Cork were soon put out of commission. Was that bad luck?  I attended a public meeting addressed by the head of the CSPU to be told that they asked Bertie in 2002 for 600 million as part of their Celtic Tiger dividend only for Bertie to give them 1.2bn. This was theft of public money by Ahern to throw at unions and their members to keep them sweet. </p>
<p>The fact of the matter is that 40% of their salaries have to be borrowed every month and that 40% has then to be serviced a rate of 5.83% for seven and a half years&#8230; same with the next 40% of their cheques etc.  We have a choice, we have inflated salaries to levels which are far too high we can pretend that everything will be all right and continue on to pay these salaries from borrowed money until the entire system collapses or we can adjust the salaries of judges, politicians, bankers, barristers, accountants, RTE presenters all the way down the line.  Peoples homes should be protected and nobody should have to pay more than a set percentage of what they earn to pay for the roof over their heads.  We already have FG and the unions gloating about getting into power. What a nice prospect it is to have Jack O&#039;Conor and David Begg stalking the corridors of power once again. I watched O&#039;Connor waltz into the Dail about two months back he adeptly side stepped a couple of hapless taxi drivers who were protesting outside the Dail he did not even cast them a sideways glance.  The judiciary, the politicians the unions are in it up to their necks and if it takes a revolution to get rid of them, so be it, better to burn out than to fade away what do think Bock?  Must we continue to pay politicians who have bankrupted the state is that not creating moral hazard?  It has to be management by objectives and payment for results not payment for failure and pensions and golden handshakes all round for abysmal failure. Everyone in Limerick should recognise O&#039;Dea for what he is, an apologist and propagandist for FF an opportunist parish pump politician, since he went into politics representing Limerick the city has gone from bad to worse. (yes, I know there are some good things happening and thank god for that)  In my opinion O&#039;Dea cares more about his moustache than he does for the people of Moyross or Southill.  People in Limerick should vote for the independents who run in the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert -- Would you consider the workers who grit the roads in winter ordinary people?  Or those nurses who look after you in hospital?  Or the firemen who  cut you out of the wreckage?  The people who operate the water treatment plants.   They are all public servants.  Would you prefer if we didn&#039;t have them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert &#8212; Would you consider the workers who grit the roads in winter ordinary people?  Or those nurses who look after you in hospital?  Or the firemen who  cut you out of the wreckage?  The people who operate the water treatment plants.   They are all public servants.  Would you prefer if we didn&#039;t have them?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 01:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mick

I agree with you about our Taj Mahal  government with jets barely in the sky before they have to land again because the island is too small. Meanwhile, their Garda drivers have their foot to the floor trying to meet them in Knock airport or Kerry Airport with the little dog in the front seat of the car. 

Were Mr. O&#039;Dea&#039;s pension contributions paid even though the number of lectures he have in the NIHE back in 1981 were miniscule? In other words is Willie going to draw a lecturers pension as well as his Dail pension even though he has been extramural for close to 29 years? Maybe Bock would look into that one for me?

As for the money for pensions they have just been made liquidate the NPRF by the IMF because they kept boasting over and over about  it. &quot;We are well funded into the middle of 2011 and we have the NPRF etc) ..... That&#039;s grand, you may toss that on the table too Paddy!  There is an unfunded Public Sector contingent liability on the books of the state for 114bn Euro according to the Comptroller and Auditor General&#039;s accounts for 2009. After we have robbed Peter where is the money going to come from to pay Paul? And I am only talking about public servants because the NPRF was only to fund themselves and not the ordinary person.

None of these politicians who have destroyed the country should get a pension and as a small favour to them we may agree not  to put them in jail though I think that might be hard to sell to the ordinary person, the unemployed, the exiled, and the person who can no longer keep his or head above water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mick</p>
<p>I agree with you about our Taj Mahal  government with jets barely in the sky before they have to land again because the island is too small. Meanwhile, their Garda drivers have their foot to the floor trying to meet them in Knock airport or Kerry Airport with the little dog in the front seat of the car. </p>
<p>Were Mr. O&#039;Dea&#039;s pension contributions paid even though the number of lectures he have in the NIHE back in 1981 were miniscule? In other words is Willie going to draw a lecturers pension as well as his Dail pension even though he has been extramural for close to 29 years? Maybe Bock would look into that one for me?</p>
<p>As for the money for pensions they have just been made liquidate the NPRF by the IMF because they kept boasting over and over about  it. &#034;We are well funded into the middle of 2011 and we have the NPRF etc) &#8230;.. That&#039;s grand, you may toss that on the table too Paddy!  There is an unfunded Public Sector contingent liability on the books of the state for 114bn Euro according to the Comptroller and Auditor General&#039;s accounts for 2009. After we have robbed Peter where is the money going to come from to pay Paul? And I am only talking about public servants because the NPRF was only to fund themselves and not the ordinary person.</p>
<p>None of these politicians who have destroyed the country should get a pension and as a small favour to them we may agree not  to put them in jail though I think that might be hard to sell to the ordinary person, the unemployed, the exiled, and the person who can no longer keep his or head above water.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 00:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some excellent comments. Even when I was doing economics for leaving cert, I made my mind up and that was a long time ago that Ireland as a small country should just simply have a NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. No ministers, no seanad. We&#039;re only a small Island for Gods sake!!!!. As an employer in these desperate times I got a letter from the revenue to explain to my employees the new CSU Levy. As if it will put a smile on their faces. I personally think this new levy is to fund Dempsey and his fellow ministers pensions perks. God give me strength. I also believe that the amount of suicides are up to an alarming rate but being kept under raps as probably one of our many politicians might ask the question as to whether theyre responsible!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some excellent comments. Even when I was doing economics for leaving cert, I made my mind up and that was a long time ago that Ireland as a small country should just simply have a NATIONAL GOVERNMENT. No ministers, no seanad. We&#039;re only a small Island for Gods sake!!!!. As an employer in these desperate times I got a letter from the revenue to explain to my employees the new CSU Levy. As if it will put a smile on their faces. I personally think this new levy is to fund Dempsey and his fellow ministers pensions perks. God give me strength. I also believe that the amount of suicides are up to an alarming rate but being kept under raps as probably one of our many politicians might ask the question as to whether theyre responsible!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Browne</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2009/03/irish-government-ministers/comment-page-1/#comment-111044</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ James Conway

Amen to that!

So we are now in December and the IMF are in running the country and demanding weekly cash flow statements from the caretaker FF/Green government.  Yesterday, I listened to Brian Lehihan talking to Pat Kenny, justifying 3 different cuts to the blind, he also assured the country that &quot;banks would not receive bonuses for a very, long time&quot;. It appears in Lenihans time frame a long time is 24 hrs. That is how long it took for AIB to declare they were paying out 40 million in bonuses to the people that bankrupted the bank.  Then I read that NAMA have paid out more in &quot;professional fees&quot; in its first year than the total amount paid out in 13 years of the Moriarty (more robbery) Tribunal as well as increasing their own NAMA salaries by 75% in year one. 

We are a joke and the people of Limerick will run out to vote for Groucho I suppose? Vote Independents!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ James Conway</p>
<p>Amen to that!</p>
<p>So we are now in December and the IMF are in running the country and demanding weekly cash flow statements from the caretaker FF/Green government.  Yesterday, I listened to Brian Lehihan talking to Pat Kenny, justifying 3 different cuts to the blind, he also assured the country that &#034;banks would not receive bonuses for a very, long time&#034;. It appears in Lenihans time frame a long time is 24 hrs. That is how long it took for AIB to declare they were paying out 40 million in bonuses to the people that bankrupted the bank.  Then I read that NAMA have paid out more in &#034;professional fees&#034; in its first year than the total amount paid out in 13 years of the Moriarty (more robbery) Tribunal as well as increasing their own NAMA salaries by 75% in year one. </p>
<p>We are a joke and the people of Limerick will run out to vote for Groucho I suppose? Vote Independents!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: James Conway</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Conway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Dec 2010 03:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To whom it concerns.

The Irish government have done a lot of damage on the poor of thin country, they had the neck of cutting disabled people and to be totally honest I hope they all rot in hell, they have messed it up so much that ever if someone that gets in in the election they have a big mess ahead of them, I truly can&#039;t they bailed out the banks and cut the poor of this country, they will have no luck for doing this and I believe that God will deal with all of them in time, so if they see bad things to their loved ones they will only have themselves to blame.

The stupid shower we have let do all they have done,  we were fools to let them in and have the country in this big mess they let happen.

I would like to know one thing, are any of them getting 200 euro a week, no they are not, could they live on 200 euro a week, we will never know as they gave themselves a large amount of money a week and we had to pick up the pieces after them, shame on them, they forgot one thing they will die just like all of us and just like all of us will have to face God for what they have done, one thing I do know is they will never get out of hell for all they have done on this Country and the poor here.</description>
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<p>The Irish government have done a lot of damage on the poor of thin country, they had the neck of cutting disabled people and to be totally honest I hope they all rot in hell, they have messed it up so much that ever if someone that gets in in the election they have a big mess ahead of them, I truly can&#039;t they bailed out the banks and cut the poor of this country, they will have no luck for doing this and I believe that God will deal with all of them in time, so if they see bad things to their loved ones they will only have themselves to blame.</p>
<p>The stupid shower we have let do all they have done,  we were fools to let them in and have the country in this big mess they let happen.</p>
<p>I would like to know one thing, are any of them getting 200 euro a week, no they are not, could they live on 200 euro a week, we will never know as they gave themselves a large amount of money a week and we had to pick up the pieces after them, shame on them, they forgot one thing they will die just like all of us and just like all of us will have to face God for what they have done, one thing I do know is they will never get out of hell for all they have done on this Country and the poor here.</p>
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		<title>By: DonegalAbu</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonegalAbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the Tanaiste never actually practised as a social worker or if she did it was for a damn short length of time. You&#039;re giving her too much credit there ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the Tanaiste never actually practised as a social worker or if she did it was for a damn short length of time. You&#039;re giving her too much credit there &#8230;</p>
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