Comments on: Get Out Of My Town … http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:35:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: z http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-70423 z Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:57:43 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-70423 it's about time they got out My heart goes out to the collins family. I can't help but thinking about what message this sends with trials looming.. -mrs o'riordan its not the area..plenty have happened in what the news would call a middle class area it's about time they got out

My heart goes out to the collins family.

I can't help but thinking about what message this sends with trials looming..

-mrs o'riordan
its not the area..plenty have happened in what the news would call a middle class area

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59435 Bock Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:01:58 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59435 Pay no attention. He's Nuts. Pay no attention. He's Nuts.

]]> By: C'est La Craic http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59419 C'est La Craic Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:14:47 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59419 I wasn't having a go at you Nuts, I was saying that when we make those sweeping statements we end up getting into the 'not all people on welfare are the Welfare Class' arguement above. Of course there are those abusing, but there are certainly those who do not. I know that to be fact from experience. Being a farmer is like having your own business that never shuts. Even with all the technology involved now it still means that they end up working longer days than bus drivers, fireman, a night club bouncers, petrol pump attendants, shop staff, librarians, social workers, airline pilots or encyclopedia salesmen. That doesn't give them the right to do any of the things you list, but not all farmers do. And if farming was so lucritive why haven't you a hundred acres of your own? Why aren't young people continuing the family farm? I know the type you're talking about, but those are generaly the 'modern world view' farmers who see it as just a commercial venture. Agribusiness. The land is nothing more than a 'capital asset', grants just another source of investment equity'. But don't paint an entire profession and tradition black because of them, and even if you really want to anyway I think, this; <i>absolute, utter, tax-dodging grasping avaricious unproductive arrogant parasites on taxpayers</i> would more suitably describe Bankers. As for PAYE, I paid it from 17 until I left Ireland, and if you ever suffer a bout of insomnia, I invite you to read up on the french tax system. You PAYE, and you PAYE, and you PAYE. I wasn't having a go at you Nuts, I was saying that when we make those sweeping statements we end up getting into the 'not all people on welfare are the Welfare Class' arguement above. Of course there are those abusing, but there are certainly those who do not. I know that to be fact from experience. Being a farmer is like having your own business that never shuts. Even with all the technology involved now it still means that they end up working longer days than bus drivers, fireman, a night club bouncers, petrol pump attendants, shop staff, librarians, social workers, airline pilots or encyclopedia salesmen. That doesn't give them the right to do any of the things you list, but not all farmers do. And if farming was so lucritive why haven't you a hundred acres of your own? Why aren't young people continuing the family farm?
I know the type you're talking about, but those are generaly the 'modern world view' farmers who see it as just a commercial venture. Agribusiness. The land is nothing more than a 'capital asset', grants just another source of investment equity'. But don't paint an entire profession and tradition black because of them, and even if you really want to anyway I think, this;
absolute, utter, tax-dodging grasping avaricious unproductive arrogant parasites on taxpayers
would more suitably describe Bankers.

As for PAYE, I paid it from 17 until I left Ireland, and if you ever suffer a bout of insomnia, I invite you to read up on the french tax system. You PAYE, and you PAYE, and you PAYE.

]]> By: The Bolted Nut http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59403 The Bolted Nut Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:24:50 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59403 C'est le Craic - my background is irrelevant, whatever it is. There are many shitty jobs out there. Driving a late night bus into Moyross. Cutting dead people out of their cars. Cleanng up the roadside after tinkers have moved on. Being a nurse. being a nightclub bouncer. Being a social worker taking children into care. None of those jobs are financially rewarding yet people do them. Who buys all the farm land that comes on the market - at twelve times its economic value? yeah, petrol pump attendants. Who drives all the 08 4x4's at the ploughing championship - yeah, Dunne's Stores check-out girls. Who drives €100,000 tractors on cheap subsidised diesel without any roadworthiness test or emissions control, holding up a nice line of little Nissans subject to all the checks? yeah, librarians. Who needs a grant regime to be induced not to spray animal wastes into rivers that ultimately become drinking water? yes, it's the airline pilots of course, the rogues. Who gets installation aid to take over businesses with multi-million assets from their fathers, who get pensions? yep, its those bloody hairdressers, isn't it? Who objects vociferously anytime cheap food is imported, yet bellows with rage if any overseas government protect their own interests by halting purchases from Ireland? That's right, encyclopedia salesmen. Farmers are absolute, utter, tax-dodging grasping avaricious unproductive arrogant parasites on taxpayers. If you think farming is financially unrewarding, try PAYE. Nuts C'est le Craic – my background is irrelevant, whatever it is. There are many shitty jobs out there. Driving a late night bus into Moyross. Cutting dead people out of their cars. Cleanng up the roadside after tinkers have moved on. Being a nurse. being a nightclub bouncer. Being a social worker taking children into care. None of those jobs are financially rewarding yet people do them.
Who buys all the farm land that comes on the market – at twelve times its economic value? yeah, petrol pump attendants.
Who drives all the 08 4×4's at the ploughing championship – yeah, Dunne's Stores check-out girls. Who drives €100,000 tractors on cheap subsidised diesel without any roadworthiness test or emissions control, holding up a nice line of little Nissans subject to all the checks? yeah, librarians. Who needs a grant regime to be induced not to spray animal wastes into rivers that ultimately become drinking water? yes, it's the airline pilots of course, the rogues. Who gets installation aid to take over businesses with multi-million assets from their fathers, who get pensions? yep, its those bloody hairdressers, isn't it? Who objects vociferously anytime cheap food is imported, yet bellows with rage if any overseas government protect their own interests by halting purchases from Ireland? That's right, encyclopedia salesmen.

Farmers are absolute, utter, tax-dodging grasping avaricious unproductive arrogant parasites on taxpayers. If you think farming is financially unrewarding, try PAYE.

Nuts

]]> By: C'est La Craic http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59342 C'est La Craic Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:36:36 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59342 -Bock You forgot fun-size -Bock
You forgot fun-size

]]> By: mapstew http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59316 mapstew Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:48:18 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59316 And BTW you know fucking well what I mean by ordinary jobs! And BTW you know fucking well what I mean by ordinary jobs!

]]> By: mapstew http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59315 mapstew Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:45:25 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59315 Well Mrs O' , if it was on the TV news then it must be true. You really do live under a rock. Well Mrs O' , if it was on the TV news then it must be true. You really do live under a rock.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59303 Bock Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:17:28 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59303 I can't comment on farmers. As far as I know, they come in two flavours: big and small. That's it. I know nothing else about them and therefore have no opinion. I can't comment on farmers. As far as I know, they come in two flavours: big and small. That's it.

I know nothing else about them and therefore have no opinion.

]]> By: C'est La Craic http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59299 C'est La Craic Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:59:37 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59299 -Nuts Are you from a farming background? I ask this because I am, and as long as I live I hope never to return to it. It's (for small scale farmers anyway) a tough, shity job and, more often then not, financialy unrewarding. Sure there's boys who know how to milk the system, but there's plenty who don't. You're going into the whole 'welfare class' generalisation issue above. Also I think you'll find that the biggest recipients of agricultural subsidies is Agribusiness. Companies like Cargill, and Nestlé, collect subsidies for their huge industrial farms the same as if they were Joe Spudz from down the bog, and they claim in each country where they are installed. -Nuts
Are you from a farming background?
I ask this because I am, and as long as I live I hope never to return to it. It's (for small scale farmers anyway) a tough, shity job and, more often then not, financialy unrewarding. Sure there's boys who know how to milk the system, but there's plenty who don't. You're going into the whole 'welfare class' generalisation issue above.
Also I think you'll find that the biggest recipients of agricultural subsidies is Agribusiness. Companies like Cargill, and Nestlé, collect subsidies for their huge industrial farms the same as if they were Joe Spudz from down the bog, and they claim in each country where they are installed.

]]> By: The Bolted Nut http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town/comment-page-1/#comment-59297 The Bolted Nut Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:20:41 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/11/get-out-of-my-town#comment-59297 Bock - where do farmers figure in your scheme of things? Do you consider them working Class? there are thousands of them on telly tonight, yowling over some reduction in their hand-outs. One farmer's wife I know describes her working week as follows: Monday - lodge the ewe premium scheme cheque Tuesday - lodge the milk cheque Wednesday - lodge the disadvantaged area cheque Thursday - lodge the headage payment cheque Friday - lodge the suckler cheque Saturday - shopping in Grafton Street Sunday - go to a point-to-point and have a nice meal and a few drinks on the way home Over to you, Bock for comment? Nuts Bock – where do farmers figure in your scheme of things? Do you consider them working Class? there are thousands of them on telly tonight, yowling over some reduction in their hand-outs. One farmer's wife I know describes her working week as follows:
Monday – lodge the ewe premium scheme cheque
Tuesday – lodge the milk cheque
Wednesday – lodge the disadvantaged area cheque
Thursday – lodge the headage payment cheque
Friday – lodge the suckler cheque
Saturday – shopping in Grafton Street
Sunday – go to a point-to-point and have a nice meal and a few drinks on the way home

Over to you, Bock for comment?

Nuts

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