Comments on: Knackers http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:35:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-70546 Bock Tue, 14 Apr 2009 09:56:18 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-70546 Because if you did, you'd be arrested and charged with assault. The cops prefer easy targets. Because if you did, you'd be arrested and charged with assault. The cops prefer easy targets.

]]> By: Sarah http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-70541 Sarah Tue, 14 Apr 2009 01:29:42 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-70541 What I don't understand is why do you put up with this type of behavior from people? Clearly if the majority of people in a city are not scumbags and some are why would you allow the scumbags to rule the city? I think the decent people need to stand up and say, "fuck no you can't have my phone you little punk", and beat his ass like his mother should have done. What I don't understand is why do you put up with this type of behavior from people? Clearly if the majority of people in a city are not scumbags and some are why would you allow the scumbags to rule the city? I think the decent people need to stand up and say, "fuck no you can't have my phone you little punk", and beat his ass like his mother should have done.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-60151 Bock Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:06:59 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-60151 Two things. Firstly, they'd have to say "May I steal your phone ..." Secondly, of course they know they're knackers. That's why they behave like knackers. Two things.

Firstly, they'd have to say "May I steal your phone …"

Secondly, of course they know they're knackers. That's why they behave like knackers.

]]> By: Tottianna http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-60111 Tottianna Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:22:10 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-60111 Hi Bock, this is my first time writing to you so I'm a novice at this, hope you can bear with me :) Knackers is a subject that really sets me thinking !!! What if teachers taught them to speak correctly from their first day at school........so that in years to come if they were let's say mugging someone, they'd at least wouldn't sound so terrifying......" excuse me, may I rob your phone and all your cash please "......instead of "giveus all your fuckin' money and your fuckin phone sham ".....the trauma of it mightn't be so bad if they had some manners and were polite about it.....;-) One thing that I'd really like to know Bock is this.......do knackers know that they are knackers ????? I wonder.....;-) Hi Bock, this is my first time writing to you so I'm a novice at this, hope you can bear with me :) Knackers is a subject that really sets me thinking !!! What if teachers taught them to speak correctly from their first day at school……..so that in years to come if they were let's say mugging someone, they'd at least wouldn't sound so terrifying……" excuse me, may I rob your phone and all your cash please "……instead of "giveus all your fuckin' money and your fuckin phone sham "…..the trauma of it mightn't be so bad if they had some manners and were polite about it…..;-) One thing that I'd really like to know Bock is this…….do knackers know that they are knackers ????? I wonder…..;-)

]]> By: His Girl Friday http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-56287 His Girl Friday Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:42:00 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-56287 C'est, thanks for the clarification, though I took your suggestion literally since adult literacy is an ongoing subjuct here in the wonderful welfare state of California. Many kids, if they even graduate highschool, have trouble reading, as well as many immigrants vary on their level of speaking and understanding English. Well, obviously there's much to be said for this subject. For the last fifteen years (at my work), I've more or less seen first hand, generations of those who've chosen 'welfare' as a career. Many of them are only superceded in their 'entitlement issues' by their arrogance. However, to be fair, I've also met many people who are living on assistance, and who are very thankful. It's all about attitude; you can be poor and still have class. As you mentioned, Bock, it's a mindset. And, obviously found elsewhere in the world. Perhaps, it's not the issue of the 'knackers' that needs to be addressed, but the people in the respective governments et al who've enabled the 'knacker' culture to develop. Yet, you wonder, if you kick them off the welfare, will they go and get jobs, or just increase the crime statistics? As to the names...however amusing I find the nouveau names, I'm not sure what's worse? To be named something nouveau or be named after some archaic saint. C'est,
thanks for the clarification, though I took your suggestion literally since adult literacy is an ongoing subjuct here in the wonderful welfare state of California. Many kids, if they even graduate highschool, have trouble reading, as well as many immigrants vary on their level of speaking and understanding English.

Well, obviously there's much to be said for this subject. For the last fifteen years (at my work), I've more or less seen first hand, generations of those who've chosen 'welfare' as a career. Many of them are only superceded in their 'entitlement issues' by their arrogance. However, to be fair, I've also met many people who are living on assistance, and who are very thankful.
It's all about attitude; you can be poor and still have class.

As you mentioned, Bock, it's a mindset. And, obviously found elsewhere in the world. Perhaps, it's not the issue of the 'knackers' that needs to be addressed, but the people in the respective governments et al who've enabled the 'knacker' culture to develop. Yet, you wonder, if you kick them off the welfare, will they go and get jobs, or just increase the crime statistics?

As to the names…however amusing I find the nouveau names, I'm not sure what's worse? To be named something nouveau or be named after some archaic saint.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-56277 Bock Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:51:24 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-56277 Martin -- If you have another look at this post, you'll see that I don't suggest our welfare system is screwed at all, so there's no point criticising me for that. Likewise, I don't blame scroungers or spongers for anything, so you're wasting your time there. Furthermore, I don't try to characterise any section of society as scroungers, spongers or anything else. If you read the post again, you'll see that I haven't mentioned a "problem", nor have I tried to quantify it, and therefore I have nothing to say about that point you make. As Le Craic says, I'm talking about a mind-set, and not because it impoverishes us, but because I don't like that mind-set. Finally, if I think somebody calling their child Beyoncé is an idiot, well, I'll just have to take the flak for being an elitist, because anyone who does that is a fucking idiot. Martin — If you have another look at this post, you'll see that I don't suggest our welfare system is screwed at all, so there's no point criticising me for that. Likewise, I don't blame scroungers or spongers for anything, so you're wasting your time there.

Furthermore, I don't try to characterise any section of society as scroungers, spongers or anything else.

If you read the post again, you'll see that I haven't mentioned a "problem", nor have I tried to quantify it, and therefore I have nothing to say about that point you make.

As Le Craic says, I'm talking about a mind-set, and not because it impoverishes us, but because I don't like that mind-set.

Finally, if I think somebody calling their child Beyoncé is an idiot, well, I'll just have to take the flak for being an elitist, because anyone who does that is a fucking idiot.

]]> By: Martin http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-56275 Martin Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:40:42 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-56275 C’est La Craic – apologies, our posts crossed. Of course I recognise that the mind-set exists. Just as I understand that a mind-set exists that blames “scroungers”, “spongers” and all the usual suspects for the fact that our Health/Welfare system is screwed. As I’ve already said ; we’ve heard this all before from Rupert &Co. Probably going to hear a whole lot more too, when the politicians and their mates in the media go looking for easy targets. I work in a shop in a working-class area, where I also live. I meet any number of people, on a daily basis, who fit the characterisations trotted out on this page. Some are a pain in the arse. The majority are good people. Ok Bock, you may not like their manners or the fact that they choose to name their kids after Destiny’s Child members but that’s just unfortunate. To be clear – I understand your piece to be about people who don’t feel uncomfortable about not working. I don’t think it’s anything like as big a problem as you depict. I also think it’s a complicated issue with a whole lot of different factors feeding into it. Sorry, am I coming across like a social worker? – I swear I’m only a humble shop assistant. C’est La Craic – apologies, our posts crossed. Of course I recognise that the mind-set exists. Just as I understand that a mind-set exists that blames “scroungers”, “spongers” and all the usual suspects for the fact that our Health/Welfare system is screwed. As I’ve already said ; we’ve heard this all before from Rupert &Co. Probably going to hear a whole lot more too, when the politicians and their mates in the media go looking for easy targets. I work in a shop in a working-class area, where I also live. I meet any number of people, on a daily basis, who fit the characterisations trotted out on this page. Some are a pain in the arse. The majority are good people. Ok Bock, you may not like their manners or the fact that they choose to name their kids after Destiny’s Child members but that’s just unfortunate. To be clear – I understand your piece to be about people who don’t feel uncomfortable about not working. I don’t think it’s anything like as big a problem as you depict. I also think it’s a complicated issue with a whole lot of different factors feeding into it. Sorry, am I coming across like a social worker? – I swear I’m only a humble shop assistant.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-56268 Bock Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:06:53 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-56268 I'll let Martin clarify exactly who he thinks this post is about before commenting further on his remarks. In replying, he'd do well to consider the fact that most, if not all, of us here come from working class backgrounds, and he might also want to reflect on the possibility that he's projecting his own prejudices onto working class people. Furthermore, in view of the fact that most of us are far from privileged, he might like to specify exactly what he meant by "elitist" in his earlier outburst. I'll let Martin clarify exactly who he thinks this post is about before commenting further on his remarks.

In replying, he'd do well to consider the fact that most, if not all, of us here come from working class backgrounds, and he might also want to reflect on the possibility that he's projecting his own prejudices onto working class people.

Furthermore, in view of the fact that most of us are far from privileged, he might like to specify exactly what he meant by "elitist" in his earlier outburst.

]]> By: C'est La Craic http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-56266 C'est La Craic Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:01:28 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-56266 -Martin First of all, if <i>you</i> read the post immediatly above yours, you'd have noticed that what I said about adult literacy classes in reference to a mistake <i>I</i> had made in a previous post. I'll let Bock defend himself but maybe the responses to this post are as a result of other peoples own personal experieces that <i>you</i> know nothing about. My <i>interpretation</i> of Bocks post was that he was refering to a mind set, not a social class. And whether you chose to admit it ir not, that mind set exists. -Martin
First of all, if you read the post immediatly above yours, you'd have noticed that what I said about adult literacy classes in reference to a mistake I had made in a previous post.
I'll let Bock defend himself but maybe the responses to this post are as a result of other peoples own personal experieces that you know nothing about. My interpretation of Bocks post was that he was refering to a mind set, not a social class. And whether you chose to admit it ir not, that mind set exists.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2/comment-page-1/#comment-56265 Bock Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:21:26 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/10/knackers-2#comment-56265 Martin -- Who are you defending? Martin — Who are you defending?

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