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	<title>Comments on: Banking Bail-Out &#8212; Irish Government Signs Biggest IOU In History</title>
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		<title>By: Emerald Islander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerald Islander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Little Nicky, I was as baffled as you are when I heard about it. Thought exactly what you thought. &#039;Severance money&#039; is usually only given to people who are made redundant.
True for all of us, except if you are a TD or member of the government. Then you can apply for it as soon as you lost your perks. It&#039;s a law the TDs passed for themselves in 1992.
Have a look at the whole article, if you want to know more. It is on my blog, one of the entries from September 29th under the title &quot;Laughing all the Way to the Bank&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Little Nicky, I was as baffled as you are when I heard about it. Thought exactly what you thought. &#039;Severance money&#039; is usually only given to people who are made redundant.<br />
True for all of us, except if you are a TD or member of the government. Then you can apply for it as soon as you lost your perks. It&#039;s a law the TDs passed for themselves in 1992.<br />
Have a look at the whole article, if you want to know more. It is on my blog, one of the entries from September 29th under the title &#034;Laughing all the Way to the Bank&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-as regards B-B-B-Bertie and his &quot;severance&quot; pay. I thought he stepped down. If i&#039;m correct in that assuption, why are we giving him serverence. We didn&#039;t &quot;let him go&quot;, he wasn&#039;t made redundant. He decided to step down, mainly (in my opinion) because of the heat he was taking for his crooked dealing in the past (present, future ... insert tense here..) so why are we giving him anything. Wasn&#039;t he happy with the get out of jail free card?
Can anybody explain this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-as regards B-B-B-Bertie and his &#034;severance&#034; pay. I thought he stepped down. If i&#039;m correct in that assuption, why are we giving him serverence. We didn&#039;t &#034;let him go&#034;, he wasn&#039;t made redundant. He decided to step down, mainly (in my opinion) because of the heat he was taking for his crooked dealing in the past (present, future &#8230; insert tense here..) so why are we giving him anything. Wasn&#039;t he happy with the get out of jail free card?<br />
Can anybody explain this?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These two women were walking through the forest when they hear this voice from under a log. Investigating, the women discovered the voice was coming from a frog:

&quot;Help me, ladies! I am an INVESTMENT BANKER who, through an evil witch&#039;s curse, has been transformed into a frog. If one of you will kiss me, I&#039;ll be returned to my former state!&quot;

The first woman took out her purse, grabbed the frog, and stuffed it inside her handbag. The second woman, aghast, screamed, &quot;Didn&#039;t you hear him? If you kiss him, he&#039;ll turn into an investment banker?&quot;

The second woman replied, &quot;Sure, but these days a talking frog is worth more than an investment banker!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These two women were walking through the forest when they hear this voice from under a log. Investigating, the women discovered the voice was coming from a frog:</p>
<p>&#034;Help me, ladies! I am an INVESTMENT BANKER who, through an evil witch&#039;s curse, has been transformed into a frog. If one of you will kiss me, I&#039;ll be returned to my former state!&#034;</p>
<p>The first woman took out her purse, grabbed the frog, and stuffed it inside her handbag. The second woman, aghast, screamed, &#034;Didn&#039;t you hear him? If you kiss him, he&#039;ll turn into an investment banker?&#034;</p>
<p>The second woman replied, &#034;Sure, but these days a talking frog is worth more than an investment banker!&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Hoof</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hoof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just listened to her squirm her way through that interview OD.

Still somewhat surprised at listening to someone who knows even less about this fucking shambles than I do, but still manages to bluff and bluster as if she had even some notion of the implications of this folly.

Jesus H. Christy, they&#039;ll have us all sold down the river in order to save their developer buddy crooks by promising Ã¢â€šÂ¬400 bn. (that we don&#039;t have) to this other pack of cunts who are, as we speak, probably already planning to re-possess homes up and down the country in the coming months and kick the very taxpayers who are bailing them out onto the street.

At least we can console ourselves knowing Altar-boy Bertie has been given some extra stuffing for his mattress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just listened to her squirm her way through that interview OD.</p>
<p>Still somewhat surprised at listening to someone who knows even less about this fucking shambles than I do, but still manages to bluff and bluster as if she had even some notion of the implications of this folly.</p>
<p>Jesus H. Christy, they&#039;ll have us all sold down the river in order to save their developer buddy crooks by promising Ã¢â€šÂ¬400 bn. (that we don&#039;t have) to this other pack of cunts who are, as we speak, probably already planning to re-possess homes up and down the country in the coming months and kick the very taxpayers who are bailing them out onto the street.</p>
<p>At least we can console ourselves knowing Altar-boy Bertie has been given some extra stuffing for his mattress.</p>
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		<title>By: Organdonor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Organdonor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Coughlan is on Matt Cooper at the moment saying that The decision was made after discussions with &lt;b&gt;The Banking Reglatory Commission&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;The Central Bank&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;...

Well thats ok then,because we know that they are completely unbiased in everyway..&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Coughlan is on Matt Cooper at the moment saying that The decision was made after discussions with <b>The Banking Reglatory Commission</b> and <b>The Central Bank</b><b>&#8230;</p>
<p>Well thats ok then,because we know that they are completely unbiased in everyway..</b></p>
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		<title>By: Emerald Islander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerald Islander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, he is a very shrewd fellow and has always looked first of all after &#039;number one&#039; (himself).

Did you know that we - the taxpayers of Ireland - are now paying him also &#039;severance money&#039; on top of his TD salary?

I highlighted this little known fact yesterday and urged Brian Lenihan to stop it. If you are interested in the matter, have a look on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he is a very shrewd fellow and has always looked first of all after &#039;number one&#039; (himself).</p>
<p>Did you know that we &#8211; the taxpayers of Ireland &#8211; are now paying him also &#039;severance money&#039; on top of his TD salary?</p>
<p>I highlighted this little known fact yesterday and urged Brian Lenihan to stop it. If you are interested in the matter, have a look on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Little Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That must be why Bertie never had a bank account</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That must be why Bertie never had a bank account</p>
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		<title>By: Emerald Islander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emerald Islander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece again, Bock.

I remember an old man in Co. Leitrim (where I lived for a while in another century) who never had a bank account in all his life. 
His philosophy was: The only safe bank is the bank of the river. And even that can be flooded when it rains a lot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece again, Bock.</p>
<p>I remember an old man in Co. Leitrim (where I lived for a while in another century) who never had a bank account in all his life.<br />
His philosophy was: The only safe bank is the bank of the river. And even that can be flooded when it rains a lot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Little Nicky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Little Nicky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just heard a recently retired bank manager (he timed that well) from one of the major banks, on the Joe Duffy show (yeah i know, but i&#039;m not apologising).
&quot;People are giving out about the banks&quot; he says.
&quot;Bank Bashing&quot;, he calls it.
&lt;i&gt;Too fucking metaphoric&lt;/i&gt;, you say.
&quot;People &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to understand&quot;, he continues, &#039;&#039;that banking is a risk business. It&#039;s not our fault.&quot;
Fair enough. I have just one little question then.
Why the fuck are we suddenly left to underwrite your fucking risk taking?
Anyone who&#039;s ever made some bad financial investments after a long morning in the drinks tent at the Galway races couldn&#039;t ask the government to cover their bad investment. So what is it that makes YOU so special?
What&#039;s that ? Oh yes, good point, it was &lt;i&gt;our money&lt;/i&gt; you were risking. I see, it all makes sense.
I suppose i&#039;ll just go out and get a Ã¢â€šÂ¬200,000 loan at 255% interest over 70 years for Whirlpool fridge box (with origonal poystyrene insulation), centraly located (under the Amien street Dart bridge), cause let&#039;s face it, I seem to be one gullable fucking idiot !

From now on i&#039;m only dealing in chickens and glass beads</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just heard a recently retired bank manager (he timed that well) from one of the major banks, on the Joe Duffy show (yeah i know, but i&#039;m not apologising).<br />
&#034;People are giving out about the banks&#034; he says.<br />
&#034;Bank Bashing&#034;, he calls it.<br />
<i>Too fucking metaphoric</i>, you say.<br />
&#034;People <i>have</i> to understand&#034;, he continues, &#034;that banking is a risk business. It&#039;s not our fault.&#034;<br />
Fair enough. I have just one little question then.<br />
Why the fuck are we suddenly left to underwrite your fucking risk taking?<br />
Anyone who&#039;s ever made some bad financial investments after a long morning in the drinks tent at the Galway races couldn&#039;t ask the government to cover their bad investment. So what is it that makes YOU so special?<br />
What&#039;s that ? Oh yes, good point, it was <i>our money</i> you were risking. I see, it all makes sense.<br />
I suppose i&#039;ll just go out and get a Ã¢â€šÂ¬200,000 loan at 255% interest over 70 years for Whirlpool fridge box (with origonal poystyrene insulation), centraly located (under the Amien street Dart bridge), cause let&#039;s face it, I seem to be one gullable fucking idiot !</p>
<p>From now on i&#039;m only dealing in chickens and glass beads</p>
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		<title>By: Gombeen Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gombeen Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sit on my arse viewing daytime telly all day long, and applied for one of those loans from the nice people at the Loan Company, as advertised on Sky.  

Thing is, I was already in debt, and have f*** all income coming in, apart from the odd compo claim.  Now I find that I can&#039;t pay the loan back and the Loan Company people are banging down my door.  

Can I ask the Government to help??

&lt;a href=&quot;http://gombeennation.blogspot.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gombeen Nation: Government Bails out Irish Banks&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sit on my arse viewing daytime telly all day long, and applied for one of those loans from the nice people at the Loan Company, as advertised on Sky.  </p>
<p>Thing is, I was already in debt, and have f*** all income coming in, apart from the odd compo claim.  Now I find that I can&#039;t pay the loan back and the Loan Company people are banging down my door.  </p>
<p>Can I ask the Government to help??</p>
<p><a href="http://gombeennation.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">Gombeen Nation: Government Bails out Irish Banks</a></p>
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