Comments on: The Oil Company, The Crooked Politician and the Theft of Ireland's Energy Resources http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:35:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Basil Mc Herb http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-118221 Basil Mc Herb Fri, 18 Mar 2011 18:43:14 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-118221 Amazing and will this new lot change anything. Did the green minister change it. All very suspicious and I wonder will it be highlighted again. I for one will write to the minister just for the privilege of being ignored. Bock, Would you be able to heat this issue up again to see if the incoming minister for whatever can do whatever ? Amazing and will this new lot change anything. Did the green minister change it. All very suspicious and I wonder will it be highlighted again. I for one will write to the minister just for the privilege of being ignored.

Bock,

Would you be able to heat this issue up again to see if the incoming minister for whatever can do whatever ?

]]> By: Sodacake13 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-109367 Sodacake13 Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:31:29 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-109367 We need to look at who the governments of the day were listening to. What advice they were following ( who was promising them the most ). In another thread on this site i recommended a book by Naomi Klein called The Shock Doctrine, about the Rise Of Disaster Capitalism. It is a very indepth work of how the likes of Milton Friedman and his followers have pursued a neoliberalist type of economics to the detriment of people and democracy all over the world. Including murder. We need to look at who the governments of the day were listening to. What advice they were following ( who was promising them the most ). In another thread on this site i recommended a book by Naomi Klein called The Shock Doctrine, about the Rise Of Disaster Capitalism. It is a very indepth work of how the likes of Milton Friedman and his followers have pursued a neoliberalist type of economics to the detriment of people and democracy all over the world. Including murder.

]]> By: Damien Moran http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-109357 Damien Moran Sat, 20 Nov 2010 00:19:10 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-109357 Hoof, if you think the IMF are here on a social justice mission, think again. It is long proven they are a bunch of cunts, albeit unelected ones. Analyse the ruins they have left behind them - they are nothing short of Galway Tenters on a global scale. They are hardcore Friedmanite pimps who will fuck this country so hard up the ass (if allowed to do so) we will be begging for pittance. It has not been written in stone yet, it seems, so maybe we can salvage some grace and not have our grankids indebted too. By the way, 25 years ago Uganda told Energy Corps. to go shite due to the unfavourable terms they offered their State back then (yes, they were a nasty bunch of cunts in the mid-Eighties). For 1/4 a century Ugandans have been sent abroad to study the hydrocarbon industry and in recent years have reopened negotiations with Energy firms from a much stronger position of expertise. Pity we didn't export some bright-minded folk to study similarly. By the way, great post Bock. It is very important to cut through all the mire and pierce the jugular, You have done the public a great service by reminding us all about just how atrocious the Shell-Burke deal was and how it's aftermath is testimony to all that has become rancid in Ireland. Hoof, if you think the IMF are here on a social justice mission, think again. It is long proven they are a bunch of cunts, albeit unelected ones. Analyse the ruins they have left behind them – they are nothing short of Galway Tenters on a global scale.

They are hardcore Friedmanite pimps who will fuck this country so hard up the ass (if allowed to do so) we will be begging for pittance. It has not been written in stone yet, it seems, so maybe we can salvage some grace and not have our grankids indebted too.

By the way, 25 years ago Uganda told Energy Corps. to go shite due to the unfavourable terms they offered their State back then (yes, they were a nasty bunch of cunts in the mid-Eighties). For 1/4 a century Ugandans have been sent abroad to study the hydrocarbon industry and in recent years have reopened negotiations with Energy firms from a much stronger position of expertise. Pity we didn't export some bright-minded folk to study similarly. By the way, great post Bock.

It is very important to cut through all the mire and pierce the jugular, You have done the public a great service by reminding us all about just how atrocious the Shell-Burke deal was and how it's aftermath is testimony to all that has become rancid in Ireland.

]]> By: Eoin http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-109353 Eoin Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:27:20 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-109353 Ireland specific address for IMF. Yeah an email is useless but send one anyway. If they come and go and we're stuck with the same old cronies then it's game over. They could surely use a few pointers. IRLcontact@imf.org Ireland specific address for IMF.
Yeah an email is useless but send one anyway.
If they come and go and we're stuck with the same old cronies then it's game over.
They could surely use a few pointers.

IRLcontact@imf.org

]]> By: Hoof http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-109344 Hoof Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:26:44 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-109344 Wonder will the IMF, if indeed they are investigating the shady financial dealings of Fianna Fail and Burke in particular, decide to declare this "deal" as a fraudulent one concocted by a thieving unrepentant crook who abused his position for a bag of silver. At least unlike Yehudi or Biffo, they might have the balls to do something, and its a richer source of revenue to this country as any pensioner's pocket - in contrast to the present situation. Wonder will the IMF, if indeed they are investigating the shady financial dealings of Fianna Fail and Burke in particular, decide to declare this "deal" as a fraudulent one concocted by a thieving unrepentant crook who abused his position for a bag of silver.

At least unlike Yehudi or Biffo, they might have the balls to do something, and its a richer source of revenue to this country as any pensioner's pocket – in contrast to the present situation.

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-109341 Bock Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:09:07 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-109341 That's due to my technical incompetence. I hope to get it fixed some day by a geek. That's due to my technical incompetence. I hope to get it fixed some day by a geek.

]]> By: Andrea http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-109335 Andrea Fri, 19 Nov 2010 21:50:09 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-109335 Why isnt there a share button on this for facebook. Not many realise this so why dont you put a share button so we can spread this Why isnt there a share button on this for facebook. Not many realise this so why dont you put a share button so we can spread this

]]> By: fraz1971 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-106252 fraz1971 Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:10:29 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-106252 What Ireland needs is a proper Nationalist party. We the people of Ireland are a Nation. A Nation is unified and the very term Nation confers ownership of a country and its resources to the people. We can see how many corporate agents exist in our country who devide us when the word Nationalist is used. A strong unified people will not be pushed around. Irelands gas reserves are the property of the people of Ireland. We are a Nation with boundaries and those boundaries must be respected. Corporations care little for people or borders in their looting operations. They exist solely to extract wealth whenever and wherever possible. I saw politicians on RTE talking about peak oil and how it will impact on our security and lifestyles. It made me sick to see them talk crap to the people of Ireland when they have given away our energy security. We are having both our energy and food security looted and for what? Debt? What must be emphasised strongly is the fact that the gas pipeline is connected to Scotland and goes accross the North Sea to Europe. Estimates show that we are to give away 400billion euro in total from two gas fields. The gas off Mayo is in shallow water so there is no justification for giving it away. Why not leave it alone rather than give it away? Oil companies will give a good deal to Ireland for the gas. It is something they covet. We are bailing out foreign banks with their fictitious debt, we are giving away what little resources we do have. If we do not get a new party (untainted) into power then we will be left in the 1840's. Make no mistake about that. It is not exaggeration. We are already being told to expect high inflation (due to bailouts). We will again see the Irish go hungry in a land of plenty. What Ireland needs is a proper Nationalist party. We the people of Ireland are a Nation. A Nation is unified and the very term Nation confers ownership of a country and its resources to the people. We can see how many corporate agents exist in our country who devide us when the word Nationalist is used. A strong unified people will not be pushed around.

Irelands gas reserves are the property of the people of Ireland. We are a Nation with boundaries and those boundaries must be respected. Corporations care little for people or borders in their looting operations. They exist solely to extract wealth whenever and wherever possible.

I saw politicians on RTE talking about peak oil and how it will impact on our security and lifestyles. It made me sick to see them talk crap to the people of Ireland when they have given away our energy security. We are having both our energy and food security looted and for what? Debt?

What must be emphasised strongly is the fact that the gas pipeline is connected to Scotland and goes accross the North Sea to Europe. Estimates show that we are to give away 400billion euro in total from two gas fields.

The gas off Mayo is in shallow water so there is no justification for giving it away. Why not leave it alone rather than give it away? Oil companies will give a good deal to Ireland for the gas. It is something they covet.

We are bailing out foreign banks with their fictitious debt, we are giving away what little resources we do have. If we do not get a new party (untainted) into power then we will be left in the 1840's. Make no mistake about that. It is not exaggeration. We are already being told to expect high inflation (due to bailouts). We will again see the Irish go hungry in a land of plenty.

]]> By: 11 Sixty Nine And Counting….. :: SHELL-BOUGHT POLITICIANS TURN NAVAL SERVICE ON ITS OWN PEOPLE. :: August :: 2008 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-49258 11 Sixty Nine And Counting….. :: SHELL-BOUGHT POLITICIANS TURN NAVAL SERVICE ON ITS OWN PEOPLE. :: August :: 2008 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:14:41 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-49258 [...] “Ask anyone you know how much royalties Shell Oil and its partners are paying the country to take our gas from the Corrib Field. I tried this over the past few days and I got answers ranging from fifty per cent to probably very little. Nobody came up with the correct answer, which is not a single penny. Did you know that? Did you know that the energy consortium, whose pipeline is being forced past protesters by hundreds of our own police, pays nothing at all to this country for taking our natural resources…?” (From here.) [...] [...] "Ask anyone you know how much royalties Shell Oil and its partners are paying the country to take our gas from the Corrib Field. I tried this over the past few days and I got answers ranging from fifty per cent to probably very little. Nobody came up with the correct answer, which is not a single penny. Did you know that? Did you know that the energy consortium, whose pipeline is being forced past protesters by hundreds of our own police, pays nothing at all to this country for taking our natural resources…?" (From here.) [...]

]]> By: eirbiz http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources/comment-page-1/#comment-39752 eirbiz Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:38:13 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2008/07/the-oil-company-the-crooked-politician-and-the-theft-of-irelands-energy-resources#comment-39752 The first priority of the oil companies and other business crooks who do business in this or any other country is to send in their 'agents' in order to determine who can be bought. They also do a study of the mentality of the citizens to gauge the extent of a possible backlash if the extent of their plundering is discovered. In the case of the Irish electorate, all they had to do was look at the crooked and inept politicians whom we elected to come to the conclusion that setting up any type of scam here was 'like taking candy from a baby'. The first priority of the oil companies and other business crooks who do business in this or any other country is to send in their 'agents' in order to determine who can be bought. They also do a study of the mentality of the citizens to gauge the extent of a possible backlash if the extent of their plundering is discovered.
In the case of the Irish electorate, all they had to do was look at the crooked and inept politicians whom we elected to come to the conclusion that setting up any type of scam here was 'like taking candy from a baby'.

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