Comments on: Bertie's Solution to the Cocaine Problem http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 21:35:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brian http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9684 Brian Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:56:52 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9684 They won't do that because to start demanding scumbags to account for their money they would also have to apply that thinking to legitimate business too. The same legitimate business owners who keep the party coffers fat. No one dared ask how CJH could afford yachts, an island and posh shirts on a Taoiseachs salary. Think crooked councilors and dodgy builders. legalise drugs is the only way. Get real. Regulate it, control the quality and tax it so the revenue comfortably pays for treatment and other ill costs to society. They won't do that because to start demanding scumbags to account for their money they would also have to apply that thinking to legitimate business too. The same legitimate business owners who keep the party coffers fat. No one dared ask how CJH could afford yachts, an island and posh shirts on a Taoiseachs salary. Think crooked councilors and dodgy builders.
legalise drugs is the only way. Get real. Regulate it, control the quality and tax it so the revenue comfortably pays for treatment and other ill costs to society.

]]> By: eliza http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9237 eliza Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:34:08 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9237 Bock - We have a funny discrepancy in our legal system. We are more interested in arresting users than we appear to be in arresting dealers. A dealer can always trade up, and reduce his sentence by rolling on his supplier. And end user? Not so much. No one cares who he buys from at such a low level. And as Omni pointed out, just this week the decision to treat all cocaine based offenses equally regardless of drug type (since subsequent studies have shown that rock and powder are equally harmful - popular culture holds that crack is more addictive, which has been proven to be a falsehood). If rejected on a scientific point, I'm cool with it. Cocaine gets you high and is addictive regardless of form. Other arguments I've seen tossed around say that since crack is the drug of black people, this type of sentencing unfairly targets blacks. Interesting. Not sure what to think there. Personally, I've always held that everything should be legal - no one wants a Nanny State - but tax the ever living fuck out of it, and use those funds to pay for hospitals, treatment centers, and education programs. Nothing was nastier to me than our health class in high school where they had a gentleman suffering from tongue cancer come in and explain to us (orally, ha ha) the perils of using dip. He had no tongue, mostly rotted teeth, and a graft on the side of his face where the surgeons had cut out a tumor and patched it with skin from his shoulder. Bock -

We have a funny discrepancy in our legal system. We are more interested in arresting users than we appear to be in arresting dealers. A dealer can always trade up, and reduce his sentence by rolling on his supplier. And end user? Not so much. No one cares who he buys from at such a low level.

And as Omni pointed out, just this week the decision to treat all cocaine based offenses equally regardless of drug type (since subsequent studies have shown that rock and powder are equally harmful – popular culture holds that crack is more addictive, which has been proven to be a falsehood). If rejected on a scientific point, I'm cool with it. Cocaine gets you high and is addictive regardless of form. Other arguments I've seen tossed around say that since crack is the drug of black people, this type of sentencing unfairly targets blacks. Interesting. Not sure what to think there.

Personally, I've always held that everything should be legal – no one wants a Nanny State – but tax the ever living fuck out of it, and use those funds to pay for hospitals, treatment centers, and education programs. Nothing was nastier to me than our health class in high school where they had a gentleman suffering from tongue cancer come in and explain to us (orally, ha ha) the perils of using dip. He had no tongue, mostly rotted teeth, and a graft on the side of his face where the surgeons had cut out a tumor and patched it with skin from his shoulder.

]]> By: Brian Damage http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9234 Brian Damage Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:42:34 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9234 Excellent post, Bock. This whole situation exposes how woefully the Government actually grasps the situation. No surprises there then. Excellent post, Bock. This whole situation exposes how woefully the Government actually grasps the situation.

No surprises there then.

]]> By: clairec23 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9230 clairec23 Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:21:36 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9230 He's an awful plank, does he have one iota of a clue of what goes on in this country? Is he going to get them to raid the offices of all of the "professionals" who take drugs? Muppet... Yep, the police are scared shitless of the criminals. Except the petty ones that aren't related to anyone major. And the criminals are in no way scared of the police, sure they have better fecking weapons and protection plus a lot more money and plenty of people willing to turn a blind eye. He's an awful plank, does he have one iota of a clue of what goes on in this country? Is he going to get them to raid the offices of all of the "professionals" who take drugs? Muppet…

Yep, the police are scared shitless of the criminals. Except the petty ones that aren't related to anyone major. And the criminals are in no way scared of the police, sure they have better fecking weapons and protection plus a lot more money and plenty of people willing to turn a blind eye.

]]> By: The Bad Ambassador http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9226 The Bad Ambassador Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:24:47 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9226 great post - you can't put it in simpler terms than that. great post – you can't put it in simpler terms than that.

]]> By: JackMcMad http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9224 JackMcMad Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:54:25 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9224 login? I mean logic. Fuck these computers and their 'login' login? I mean logic. Fuck these computers and their 'login'

]]> By: JackMcMad http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9223 JackMcMad Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:52:55 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9223 What kind of Police State is he trying to enforce on us? I'm a sociable kind of guy, I love having friends over for parties, I like music, sometimes loudly, but I don't do drugs. What gives that facist wanker the right to invade my home for no reason, not even a merest suspicion, other than there MIGHT be drugs there. What sort of login is that Party=Drugs? Fuck off Bertie! What kind of Police State is he trying to enforce on us? I'm a sociable kind of guy, I love having friends over for parties, I like music, sometimes loudly, but I don't do drugs. What gives that facist wanker the right to invade my home for no reason, not even a merest suspicion, other than there MIGHT be drugs there. What sort of login is that Party=Drugs? Fuck off Bertie!

]]> By: Jimmy Page’s Trousers » Jesus wept http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9221 Jimmy Page’s Trousers » Jesus wept Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:03:15 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9221 [...] in the doors of people having a few beers in their homes isn’t going to solve the problem. Bock, as always, has some reasoned thoughts about that and he’ll express them better that I.  [...] [...] in the doors of people having a few beers in their homes isn't going to solve the problem. Bock, as always, has some reasoned thoughts about that and he'll express them better that I.  [...]

]]> By: Thriftcriminal http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9215 Thriftcriminal Wed, 12 Dec 2007 08:50:57 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9215 Have two wrongs make a right. We have rendition flights going through Shannon that we don't like. We have drug dealing scum we don't like. A word in the right ears could result in some of the scumbags taking an extended break in sunny Guantanamo, complete with surfing, that is what water-boarding means right? :-) Have two wrongs make a right. We have rendition flights going through Shannon that we don't like. We have drug dealing scum we don't like. A word in the right ears could result in some of the scumbags taking an extended break in sunny Guantanamo, complete with surfing, that is what water-boarding means right? :-)

]]> By: Bock http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-9187 Bock Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:44:33 +0000 http://bocktherobber.com/2007/12/berties-solution-to-the-cocaine-problem#comment-9187 No. It doesn't seem to be the brightest thing ever. What do you do about the dealers over there? No. It doesn't seem to be the brightest thing ever. What do you do about the dealers over there?

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