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		<title>By: compliant poor</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/05/limerick-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-106632</link>
		<dc:creator>compliant poor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is unwise to view isolated incidents as national traits we can cite the underrated and non-violent Irish born internationalist Michael Davitt who during 1904 worked in defense of beleaguered Russian Jews, his involvement was recalled  two years later by Rabbai Rev. Dr. Joseph Silverman (1860-1930) of Temple Emanu-el voicing the gratitude of the Jewish people when celebrating the life of that most effective of internationalists at Carnegie Hall June of 1906, Dr. Silverman was received with good will by a thousand Irish people and put on record the debt of gratitude his race owes to Michael Davitt, recounting the effectiveness of his efforts during 1904 &quot;When the piteous cries from Kishineff resounded throughout the world and told us that a slaughter of the oppressed was going on in Russia, stories calculated to give a false impression were circulated by the agents of the Russian Government&quot; &quot;Micheal Davitt then went into the Lion’s den and hunted down the stories as lies and extravagant exadurations. He (Davitt) learned the truth and told it to the world.&quot;
&quot;We will never forget his service, by a strange coincidence while we today keep this vigil in his memory comes the piteous cry again from Russia saying that the murderers are again about their bloody work. Pillage murder and rapine are working havoc in Bialystok, while we are here remembering the champion of liberty.&quot; (Silverman was the first american born Rabbai)
No doubt cultural contempt and injustice still exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is unwise to view isolated incidents as national traits we can cite the underrated and non-violent Irish born internationalist Michael Davitt who during 1904 worked in defense of beleaguered Russian Jews, his involvement was recalled  two years later by Rabbai Rev. Dr. Joseph Silverman (1860-1930) of Temple Emanu-el voicing the gratitude of the Jewish people when celebrating the life of that most effective of internationalists at Carnegie Hall June of 1906, Dr. Silverman was received with good will by a thousand Irish people and put on record the debt of gratitude his race owes to Michael Davitt, recounting the effectiveness of his efforts during 1904 &#034;When the piteous cries from Kishineff resounded throughout the world and told us that a slaughter of the oppressed was going on in Russia, stories calculated to give a false impression were circulated by the agents of the Russian Government&#034; &#034;Micheal Davitt then went into the Lion’s den and hunted down the stories as lies and extravagant exadurations. He (Davitt) learned the truth and told it to the world.&#034;<br />
&#034;We will never forget his service, by a strange coincidence while we today keep this vigil in his memory comes the piteous cry again from Russia saying that the murderers are again about their bloody work. Pillage murder and rapine are working havoc in Bialystok, while we are here remembering the champion of liberty.&#034; (Silverman was the first american born Rabbai)<br />
No doubt cultural contempt and injustice still exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Poll Dorcha</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/05/limerick-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-106490</link>
		<dc:creator>Poll Dorcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Limerick Boycott 1904: Anti-Semitism in Ireland, by Dermot Keogh and Andrew McCarthy, Mercier Press, 163 pp, €20, ISBN: 978-1856354530

From Manus O&#039; Riordan Dublin Review of Books http://www.drb.ie/more_details/08-09-28/Citizens_of_the_Republic.aspx

&quot;The first non-Jewish writer to write a comprehensive history of Ireland’s Jewish minority and incorporate into it much original research on Limerick was Dermot Keogh. In his 1998 work, Jews in Twentieth Century Ireland, Keogh was already writing somewhat equivocally: 

Various writers have described as a ‘pogrom’ the events in Limerick of early January 1904. Is the retention of the term justified, considering nobody was killed or seriously injured? I believe it is, for the following reasons: based on their experiences in Lithuania, the word pogrom came immediately to the lips of Limerick’s Jews when they found themselves under attack in January 1904. This was pointed out to me by Gerald Goldberg, whose family lived there in 1904 and were obliged to leave the city as a consequence of the disturbances.

Yet nowhere in the course of  Goldberg’s own previously-cited scholarly article had he himself ever used the word “pogrom”, not even once. 

In 2005 Dermot Keogh revisited this subject matter in a new book co-authored with Andrew McCarthy. While incorporating material that had been in his 1998 work, this latest publication had the added bonus of providing marvellous facsimile reproductions of original documentation from that period. Moreover, Keogh had, in fact, also moved a step further from his more tentative reservations of 1998: “Ultimately, of course, it is for the reader to judge whether the events should be viewed as a boycott or a pogrom … The fact that we have chosen to entitle the book Limerick Boycott 1904 will indicate our preference, but nothing can detract from the terror experienced by the Jews of Limerick on the evening of Fr. Creagh’s first sermon.”

In my 1974 essay on the subject I had connected the Dublin public house argument of the Cyclops episode of Ulysses with the contemporary boycott of Limerick’s Jewish community. But five years later I failed to set Arthur Griffith’s propaganda against Jewish immigration into Ireland against the backdrop of anti-Semitism in the United Kingdom, which manifested itself in the 1905 Aliens Act. The vileness of Griffith’s anti-Semitic propaganda during 1904 had, of course, been as unconscionable as it was inexcusable: “The Jew in Ireland is in every respect an economic evil”, “they are – nine tenths of them – usurers and parasites”, while all “were aware from childhood that the Jews slew a much greater than St. Stephen or St. James”. Such statements by Griffith would also have remained permanently unforgivable if he had continued to sustain even one iota of that stance in subsequent years. But he did not.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Limerick Boycott 1904: Anti-Semitism in Ireland, by Dermot Keogh and Andrew McCarthy, Mercier Press, 163 pp, €20, ISBN: 978-1856354530</p>
<p>From Manus O&#039; Riordan Dublin Review of Books <a href="http://www.drb.ie/more_details/08-09-28/Citizens_of_the_Republic.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.drb.ie/more_details/08-09-28/Citizens_of_the_Republic.aspx</a></p>
<p>&#034;The first non-Jewish writer to write a comprehensive history of Ireland’s Jewish minority and incorporate into it much original research on Limerick was Dermot Keogh. In his 1998 work, Jews in Twentieth Century Ireland, Keogh was already writing somewhat equivocally: </p>
<p>Various writers have described as a ‘pogrom’ the events in Limerick of early January 1904. Is the retention of the term justified, considering nobody was killed or seriously injured? I believe it is, for the following reasons: based on their experiences in Lithuania, the word pogrom came immediately to the lips of Limerick’s Jews when they found themselves under attack in January 1904. This was pointed out to me by Gerald Goldberg, whose family lived there in 1904 and were obliged to leave the city as a consequence of the disturbances.</p>
<p>Yet nowhere in the course of  Goldberg’s own previously-cited scholarly article had he himself ever used the word “pogrom”, not even once. </p>
<p>In 2005 Dermot Keogh revisited this subject matter in a new book co-authored with Andrew McCarthy. While incorporating material that had been in his 1998 work, this latest publication had the added bonus of providing marvellous facsimile reproductions of original documentation from that period. Moreover, Keogh had, in fact, also moved a step further from his more tentative reservations of 1998: “Ultimately, of course, it is for the reader to judge whether the events should be viewed as a boycott or a pogrom … The fact that we have chosen to entitle the book Limerick Boycott 1904 will indicate our preference, but nothing can detract from the terror experienced by the Jews of Limerick on the evening of Fr. Creagh’s first sermon.”</p>
<p>In my 1974 essay on the subject I had connected the Dublin public house argument of the Cyclops episode of Ulysses with the contemporary boycott of Limerick’s Jewish community. But five years later I failed to set Arthur Griffith’s propaganda against Jewish immigration into Ireland against the backdrop of anti-Semitism in the United Kingdom, which manifested itself in the 1905 Aliens Act. The vileness of Griffith’s anti-Semitic propaganda during 1904 had, of course, been as unconscionable as it was inexcusable: “The Jew in Ireland is in every respect an economic evil”, “they are – nine tenths of them – usurers and parasites”, while all “were aware from childhood that the Jews slew a much greater than St. Stephen or St. James”. Such statements by Griffith would also have remained permanently unforgivable if he had continued to sustain even one iota of that stance in subsequent years. But he did not.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey McMahon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey McMahon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have a look at the movie &quot;Holy Water&quot;. It is an Irish movie set up North (in Derry i believe). Myself and a friend came across it in the movie rental store in Kilkee towards the end of this summer, we got quite the laugh from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have a look at the movie &#034;Holy Water&#034;. It is an Irish movie set up North (in Derry i believe). Myself and a friend came across it in the movie rental store in Kilkee towards the end of this summer, we got quite the laugh from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niall: I&#039;ll try and get to it some time.

Benny: Good plan.

Conan: I&#039;d never be able to cover them all, but interestingly enough, they don&#039;t actually have a church now.  It&#039;s been decontaminated and I think it&#039;s going to be a lap-dancing club or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niall: I&#039;ll try and get to it some time.</p>
<p>Benny: Good plan.</p>
<p>Conan: I&#039;d never be able to cover them all, but interestingly enough, they don&#039;t actually have a church now.  It&#039;s been decontaminated and I think it&#039;s going to be a lap-dancing club or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Conan Drumm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conan Drumm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 11:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bock, and do the Js, pardon me I mean the Society of Jesus, not have a church worth writing about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bock, and do the Js, pardon me I mean the Society of Jesus, not have a church worth writing about?</p>
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		<title>By: Benny the Bridgebuilder</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/05/limerick-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-2001</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny the Bridgebuilder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bock,

Let&#039;s hear you on transubstantiation when you run out of Holy Water.

PxXIV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bock,</p>
<p>Let&#039;s hear you on transubstantiation when you run out of Holy Water.</p>
<p>PxXIV</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, as far as I&#039;ve read, the Catholics invented holy water since there is no mention of it in the Bible.

Its little more than fairy charms and magic words.  Think of the absurdity of Holy Water in general.

I just started reading Leviathan, its cool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, as far as I&#039;ve read, the Catholics invented holy water since there is no mention of it in the Bible.</p>
<p>Its little more than fairy charms and magic words.  Think of the absurdity of Holy Water in general.</p>
<p>I just started reading Leviathan, its cool</p>
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		<title>By: Niall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 21:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey bock, is there any chance you could give details about that pogrom you mentioned?? pretty please.  

There is so much dark shit that went on in this country and I&#039;m busting to know about it.  Its hard to find books with this kind of info, most of it just relates to what the brits did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey bock, is there any chance you could give details about that pogrom you mentioned?? pretty please.  </p>
<p>There is so much dark shit that went on in this country and I&#039;m busting to know about it.  Its hard to find books with this kind of info, most of it just relates to what the brits did.</p>
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		<title>By: Bock</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/05/limerick-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-1995</link>
		<dc:creator>Bock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 18:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HZC: Well you sobered up, did you?  Good man.

Cap&#039;n:  That&#039;s probably it.  The tank is irradiated.  Holy Toenails!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HZC: Well you sobered up, did you?  Good man.</p>
<p>Cap&#039;n:  That&#039;s probably it.  The tank is irradiated.  Holy Toenails!</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 13:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they blessed the tank and, in doing, made blessed anything that resided therein. The only problem with that is that you&#039;d have to ask Annie Fitz to wash her toenails elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they blessed the tank and, in doing, made blessed anything that resided therein. The only problem with that is that you&#039;d have to ask Annie Fitz to wash her toenails elsewhere.</p>
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