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		<title>By: thesystemworks</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-72577</link>
		<dc:creator>thesystemworks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the American Revolutionary War, the Continental Army was largely disbanded. Individuals were expected to take up a bigger role in defence from internal and external enemies. Rag-tag groups would fight the Indian when there was trouble, and afterwards the gun would rest once again by the fireplace. Of course, the defence needs and military policy of the US today is far removed from that reality. Nevertheless, I do agree with the right to bear arms, but would prefer if it was perhaps given to members of actual militias trained in the use of arms (like in Switzerland) or where most people have military or weapons training (Israel) - these countries having huge gun ownership amongst civilians but very low in gun crime as well as other varieties of crime. This is not the situation in the US, where any idiot can just buy a damn gun and have no competency in its use whatsoever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the American Revolutionary War, the Continental Army was largely disbanded. Individuals were expected to take up a bigger role in defence from internal and external enemies. Rag-tag groups would fight the Indian when there was trouble, and afterwards the gun would rest once again by the fireplace. Of course, the defence needs and military policy of the US today is far removed from that reality. Nevertheless, I do agree with the right to bear arms, but would prefer if it was perhaps given to members of actual militias trained in the use of arms (like in Switzerland) or where most people have military or weapons training (Israel) &#8211; these countries having huge gun ownership amongst civilians but very low in gun crime as well as other varieties of crime. This is not the situation in the US, where any idiot can just buy a damn gun and have no competency in its use whatsoever.</p>
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		<title>By: Another blogger moves homeÃ¢â‚¬â€œBock The Robber</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-2809</link>
		<dc:creator>Another blogger moves homeÃ¢â‚¬â€œBock The Robber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You might remember Brian from our little arguments about American gun law. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Great Zucchini</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1619</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great Zucchini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,&lt;br/&gt;Be plain, Are you saying that they are deliberately not controlling criminal elements as a method of foisting greater reductions on your civil liberties? because to us outside over here yonder, it appears as if the Big Brother attitude has gone completely bugfuck over there in the gud ole US of A. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have read many photography websites where a major subject for discussions are the restrictions being placed on what you can and cannot photograph, where you can and cannot bring a GPS, etc, etc. and the attitudes of security guards and law enforcement with regard to photography. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now maybe I am reading too much into your short statement but do I detect a slight kick against this? I would agree that there does seem to be a bias to policing everyone else except your criminal element at home. Are you saying that this is done to scare the ordinary Joe soap into allowing further reductions in his freedoms by Federal Guv/Bushadmin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,<br />Be plain, Are you saying that they are deliberately not controlling criminal elements as a method of foisting greater reductions on your civil liberties? because to us outside over here yonder, it appears as if the Big Brother attitude has gone completely bugfuck over there in the gud ole US of A. </p>
<p>I have read many photography websites where a major subject for discussions are the restrictions being placed on what you can and cannot photograph, where you can and cannot bring a GPS, etc, etc. and the attitudes of security guards and law enforcement with regard to photography. </p>
<p>Now maybe I am reading too much into your short statement but do I detect a slight kick against this? I would agree that there does seem to be a bias to policing everyone else except your criminal element at home. Are you saying that this is done to scare the ordinary Joe soap into allowing further reductions in his freedoms by Federal Guv/Bushadmin?</p>
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		<title>By: Bock the Robber</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator>Bock the Robber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich, I can see your point of view.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It does seem to me that your government could remove the problem so that you wouldn&#039;t feel the need to keep a gun at home.  As you point out, maybe it doesn&#039;t want to, for other reasons.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting slant on the discussion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich, I can see your point of view.</p>
<p>It does seem to me that your government could remove the problem so that you wouldn&#039;t feel the need to keep a gun at home.  As you point out, maybe it doesn&#039;t want to, for other reasons.  </p>
<p>Interesting slant on the discussion</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. It seems to me that if the US government can afford to spend $20 million an hour on the Iraq war, you&#039;d imagine they could afford to take on and disarm their own home-grown criminals, wouldn&#039;t you?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting statement. The Govt is all about putting fear in to it&#039;s citizens to gain control. They could control the criminal element in the US but choose NOT to. So until then... I&#039;m keeping my gun to protect my family and property.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t know. It seems to me that if the US government can afford to spend $20 million an hour on the Iraq war, you&#039;d imagine they could afford to take on and disarm their own home-grown criminals, wouldn&#039;t you?</p>
<p>Interesting statement. The Govt is all about putting fear in to it&#039;s citizens to gain control. They could control the criminal element in the US but choose NOT to. So until then&#8230; I&#039;m keeping my gun to protect my family and property.</p>
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		<title>By: Eliza Doolittle</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1616</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliza Doolittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sniffle -&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am American, and I agree on so many points. I have long held (and it&#039;s quite an unpopular stance) that our domestic and foreign policies have sucked wind since the New Deal. Guns are not a god given right, and they aren&#039;t any part of &quot;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;While I have been anti gun most of my life, events have occurred in my recent family history that have honestly led me to say &quot;this wouldn&#039;t have happened if I had a gun&quot;. I&#039;m glad that I can exercise the right to do so, but I think there should be some restrictions. No assault rifles, machine guns, rpg&#039;s, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And you are right, we are the crybabies of the world. In the last fifty years, we have positioned ourselves to be the world&#039;s policeman, yet we are incredibly selective about what we police. I.E. we must have some sort of financial interest in our policing efforts. Sad, but true. If you don&#039;t have oil, or money, or aren&#039;t a Muslim that can help elect or relect a president, we aren&#039;t interested. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Woodrow Wilson (I think) had an excellent policy - it was called isolationism. Too bad in this day of an every shrinking global community it doesn&#039;t work. We will always be who we are until the Chinese finally get smart and start charging us more for their exported consumer goods. Since a good bit of our jobs are now exported, eventually no one will be able to buy anything, and our economy will slowly tank. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And then, my friend, you may say &quot;I told you so&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sniffle -</p>
<p>I am American, and I agree on so many points. I have long held (and it&#039;s quite an unpopular stance) that our domestic and foreign policies have sucked wind since the New Deal. Guns are not a god given right, and they aren&#039;t any part of &#034;life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness&#034;. </p>
<p>While I have been anti gun most of my life, events have occurred in my recent family history that have honestly led me to say &#034;this wouldn&#039;t have happened if I had a gun&#034;. I&#039;m glad that I can exercise the right to do so, but I think there should be some restrictions. No assault rifles, machine guns, rpg&#039;s, etc.</p>
<p>And you are right, we are the crybabies of the world. In the last fifty years, we have positioned ourselves to be the world&#039;s policeman, yet we are incredibly selective about what we police. I.E. we must have some sort of financial interest in our policing efforts. Sad, but true. If you don&#039;t have oil, or money, or aren&#039;t a Muslim that can help elect or relect a president, we aren&#039;t interested. </p>
<p>Woodrow Wilson (I think) had an excellent policy &#8211; it was called isolationism. Too bad in this day of an every shrinking global community it doesn&#039;t work. We will always be who we are until the Chinese finally get smart and start charging us more for their exported consumer goods. Since a good bit of our jobs are now exported, eventually no one will be able to buy anything, and our economy will slowly tank. </p>
<p>And then, my friend, you may say &#034;I told you so&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sniffle &#38; Cry</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1615</link>
		<dc:creator>Sniffle &#38; Cry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know in a very callous way, it occurs to me that the Americans don&#039;t deserve a solution to their gun problem. They are not prepared to make any sacrifice , not prepared to give in any way, and it strikes me that they must be needy for the attention the world bestows on her, drying her tears and holding her hand and telling her we understand. But like the spoilt brat she is, she will re-offend soon because she craves the attention, needs the childish debate and loves the spotlight on her, only her. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But yet, she&#039;s not adult enough to give up her weapons. She&#039;s like the child who never gets beyond omnipotence believing the world centres on her. You&#039;ll occasionally see kids at this stage in the checkout queue,  throwing a spectacular tantrum while the parents silently fume. But unlike all other kids, America has never grown up, remaining needy, sulky and cloying, wanting only her way and throwing tantrums when she can&#039;t get it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My  heart aches for the relatives of these poor souls, but my head rages at all these bastards who play with words and glorify in their anal control fantasy of caveats and regulations ( 200 Million weapons to control aka Control freak nirvana ) . Fuck them Bock, and the jig they dance around your blog with reasons for this and reasons for that  They are our world&#039;s modern spoilt child,  and are worse then any of their jingoistic empire predecessors, who wanted to be better then everyone else. It&#039;s their game, their constitution and their guns. So I say fuck them and fuck their guns, they don&#039;t want to be helped. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I stand accused of being anti-American. I could plead provocation but that would pander. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m just angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know in a very callous way, it occurs to me that the Americans don&#039;t deserve a solution to their gun problem. They are not prepared to make any sacrifice , not prepared to give in any way, and it strikes me that they must be needy for the attention the world bestows on her, drying her tears and holding her hand and telling her we understand. But like the spoilt brat she is, she will re-offend soon because she craves the attention, needs the childish debate and loves the spotlight on her, only her. </p>
<p>But yet, she&#039;s not adult enough to give up her weapons. She&#039;s like the child who never gets beyond omnipotence believing the world centres on her. You&#039;ll occasionally see kids at this stage in the checkout queue,  throwing a spectacular tantrum while the parents silently fume. But unlike all other kids, America has never grown up, remaining needy, sulky and cloying, wanting only her way and throwing tantrums when she can&#039;t get it.</p>
<p>My  heart aches for the relatives of these poor souls, but my head rages at all these bastards who play with words and glorify in their anal control fantasy of caveats and regulations ( 200 Million weapons to control aka Control freak nirvana ) . Fuck them Bock, and the jig they dance around your blog with reasons for this and reasons for that  They are our world&#039;s modern spoilt child,  and are worse then any of their jingoistic empire predecessors, who wanted to be better then everyone else. It&#039;s their game, their constitution and their guns. So I say fuck them and fuck their guns, they don&#039;t want to be helped. </p>
<p>I stand accused of being anti-American. I could plead provocation but that would pander. </p>
<p>I&#039;m just angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kav</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>Kav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like many things when you&#039;re embroiled in the thick of them, it&#039;s not black and white. Perhaps I have such a clear-cut opinion on this because I&#039;m distanced enough from it that it doesn&#039;t affect me. Either way, despite intelligent people writing intelligent arguments about why they think guns in the US are a basic human right, I believe an outright ban is the way to go. My reasoning for this is that the only other option is appropriate education on the use of arms (as happens in Switzerland with kids from a young age, and a place where there are comparatively few murders), but I don&#039;t think the US is capable of doing that. United maybe, but not enough to pull that off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many things when you&#039;re embroiled in the thick of them, it&#039;s not black and white. Perhaps I have such a clear-cut opinion on this because I&#039;m distanced enough from it that it doesn&#039;t affect me. Either way, despite intelligent people writing intelligent arguments about why they think guns in the US are a basic human right, I believe an outright ban is the way to go. My reasoning for this is that the only other option is appropriate education on the use of arms (as happens in Switzerland with kids from a young age, and a place where there are comparatively few murders), but I don&#039;t think the US is capable of doing that. United maybe, but not enough to pull that off.</p>
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		<title>By: Damo</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1613</link>
		<dc:creator>Damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooops.....should read, &lt;i&gt;&#039;a new psychological condition&#039;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting blog Bock, keep bocking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooops&#8230;..should read, <i>&#039;a new psychological condition&#039;</i></p>
<p>Interesting blog Bock, keep bocking!</p>
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		<title>By: Damo</title>
		<link>http://bocktherobber.com/2007/04/the-second-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-1612</link>
		<dc:creator>Damo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If you&#039;re going to kill someone you&#039;ll do it no matter what you have to do it with.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Actually, knives are 7 times less likely to be used than guns in killings&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tim Wise wrote an excellent piece on Alternet some years ago called&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.alternet.org/story/10560/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; School Shootings and White Denial&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Could this young man, who came from South Korea to Washington DC when he was still a child, be the victim of &#039;Caucasianisation angst&#039;?, a new psychological just made up by me 10 seconds ago without any research - or was he just a self-hating nut who managed to get a gun and fulfil his blood-thirsty fantasies in a university campus, rather than the killing fields of Iraq?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;On the micro-level the U.S. experiences this tragedy and I for one, just to refute Brianf&#039;s disappointment mixed in with moral superiority about heartless bloggers, have expressed my cyber-sympathy to the families. On the macro-level the Afghan Human Rights Commission reported their findings on a massacre at Mhmand Dara where &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/534540&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; civilians were killed&lt;/a&gt; by U.S. Special Forces Marines. This atrocity has been admitted to by U.S. commander, Maj. Gen. Frank H. Kearney, the head of the Special Operations Command Central who ordered the investigation on the civilian killings in Afghanistan.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Join the dots!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If you&#039;re going to kill someone you&#039;ll do it no matter what you have to do it with.</i></p>
<p>Actually, knives are 7 times less likely to be used than guns in killings</p>
<p>Tim Wise wrote an excellent piece on Alternet some years ago called<a HREF="http://www.alternet.org/story/10560/" REL="nofollow"> School Shootings and White Denial</a>.</p>
<p>Could this young man, who came from South Korea to Washington DC when he was still a child, be the victim of &#039;Caucasianisation angst&#039;?, a new psychological just made up by me 10 seconds ago without any research &#8211; or was he just a self-hating nut who managed to get a gun and fulfil his blood-thirsty fantasies in a university campus, rather than the killing fields of Iraq?</p>
<p>On the micro-level the U.S. experiences this tragedy and I for one, just to refute Brianf&#039;s disappointment mixed in with moral superiority about heartless bloggers, have expressed my cyber-sympathy to the families. On the macro-level the Afghan Human Rights Commission reported their findings on a massacre at Mhmand Dara where <a HREF="http://www.asiantribune.com/index.php?q=node/534540" REL="nofollow"> civilians were killed</a> by U.S. Special Forces Marines. This atrocity has been admitted to by U.S. commander, Maj. Gen. Frank H. Kearney, the head of the Special Operations Command Central who ordered the investigation on the civilian killings in Afghanistan.</p>
<p>Join the dots!</p>
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